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twstm
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 Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 8:45 pm Post subject: New Member-Twstm |
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Hi, my name is Paul and I'm a bikeaholic from Harveys Lake. Seriously I found this site through Boom Boom on ADVrider.com
I have raced enduros in the past, last race bike was a KTM 300EXC. I still have a '75 PEnton Mint 400 that I have managed to hang on to through the years.
I just picked up an '03 Montesa 315R Trials bike..I think I would like to give trials shot. I will be 52 this January so I'm trying to keep the bouncing off trees in the past. |
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bwc352
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| Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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Welcome, Paul. It's great to see another trials rider in the area. The 315 is a nice solid bike. And there appears to be growing interest in trials riding in this general area, so I think you'll manage to find riders to ride with, and places to ride. Plus, you live in area that is relatively convenient to many of the D6 events, so you'll have ample opportunity to compete if that bug bites you. I don't play ride anywhere near as much as I once did, but I still get out from time to time. Hopefully, we'll get a chance to ride together sometime.
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Boom Boom
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| Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 6:00 am Post subject: |
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Do I hear a NEWR trials club being formed???
Host an event in 2011?????
I can remember riding trials events at Hurican Hills, who organized those events and how close to you is that track??
Paul, don't let Brian kid you, hard to believe the weels have not worn off his Sherco he rides that much................. 
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twstm
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| Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 7:50 am Post subject: |
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| bwc352 wrote: | Welcome, Paul. It's great to see another trials rider in the area. The 315 is a nice solid bike. And there appears to be growing interest in trials riding in this general area, so I think you'll manage to find riders to ride with, and places to ride. Plus, you live in area that is relatively convenient to many of the D6 events, so you'll have ample opportunity to compete if that bug bites you. I don't play ride anywhere near as much as I once did, but I still get out from time to time. Hopefully, we'll get a chance to ride together sometime.
Brian |
Thanks for the welcome, but I wouldn't call myself a Trials rider yet! I have found in the hour or so I have had on the bike that I have a lot to learn. I managed to get over a few good sized logs but I am sure there are a lot of techniques I need to learn. I hope to get out on a ride with someone who competes, maybe this old dog can learn some new tricks! I am seriously considering trying some entry level competition next year... |
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bwc352
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| Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Boom Boom wrote: | Do I hear a NEWR trials club being formed???
Host an event in 2011?????
I can remember riding trials events at Hurican Hills, who organized those events and how close to you is that track??
Paul, don't let Brian kid you, hard to believe the weels have not worn off his Sherco he rides that much................. |
I have no idea who organized the Hurricane Hills event. It's about 20 to 25 minutes north of my house. I've done my share of riding there, but not on a trials bike. All MX and Hare Scrambles. There also used to be events organized by the Back Mountain Enduro Riders about 40 minutes south of me. It figures that as soon as I get into trials, all the local events die!
And I USED to play ride a lot. Not any more. Almost all my peg time comes from competition anymore. I probably competed in 25 events this year, but probably practiced/play rode at most a dozen times. |
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Boom Boom
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| Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:47 am Post subject: |
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Now that I think back my guess is that Lane Reedy organized or helped to organize the event. I think they hosted 2 events.
From what I remember they had nice stuff to work with.
First year I only made a couple sections before I broke a foot peg off the Fantic and second year my Aprillia blew a fork seal on a big drop off. Needless to say I did not get to get much riding in.
I also remember riding a couple events that were about 20 minutes west of WilkesBarre, Forksville or something like that. Camped at the ballfield in town. They had some great stuff.
At one point the trials activity was just about as active at your back door as Lock Haven / Williamsport area is now.
OBTW, any idea where Charlie will be hosting his event this year? I understand that he does not have access to the 4x4 club land.
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bwc352
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| twstm wrote: |
Thanks for the welcome, but I wouldn't call myself a Trials rider yet! I have found in the hour or so I have had on the bike that I have a lot to learn. I managed to get over a few good sized logs but I am sure there are a lot of techniques I need to learn. I hope to get out on a ride with someone who competes, maybe this old dog can learn some new tricks! I am seriously considering trying some entry level competition next year... |
I believe you should definitely enter some events next year. I think you'll have a blast. In my opinion, you should just dive right in. The sooner, the better. I probably would suggest starting out in the Beginner class if in D6 and in the C or B class in MAVT. If it turns out that those classes are too easy for you, you can always move up at the next event. But if you immediately jump into a class that's too hard for you, you probably will have a real crappy time which could kill your enthusiasm.
I hope to see you at some events next year. Right now, it looks like the first event will be an MAVT event at Candytown in mid-April, which is a few miles south of Hershey, and not too bad of a trip for you. I hope you circle the date and plan on going.
Brian |
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twstm
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| Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:08 am Post subject: |
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| bwc352 wrote: | | twstm wrote: |
Thanks for the welcome, but I wouldn't call myself a Trials rider yet! I have found in the hour or so I have had on the bike that I have a lot to learn. I managed to get over a few good sized logs but I am sure there are a lot of techniques I need to learn. I hope to get out on a ride with someone who competes, maybe this old dog can learn some new tricks! I am seriously considering trying some entry level competition next year... |
I believe you should definitely enter some events next year. I think you'll have a blast. In my opinion, you should just dive right in. The sooner, the better. I probably would suggest starting out in the Beginner class if in D6 and in the C or B class in MAVT. If it turns out that those classes are too easy for you, you can always move up at the next event. But if you immediately jump into a class that's too hard for you, you probably will have a real crappy time which could kill your enthusiasm.
I hope to see you at some events next year. Right now, it looks like the first event will be an MAVT event at Candytown in mid-April, which is a few miles south of Hershey, and not too bad of a trip for you. I hope you circle the date and plan on going.
Brian |
Right now I think I am going to go for it. Maybe an old dog can learn new tricks? I need to get up to speed on the acronyms also...I can't remember what MAVT stands for???
I have been watching some of the training video clips on the Trials Training Centers web page, they are definitely a help. Is there any instructional DVD you would recommend?
Thanks,
Paul |
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jaysktms
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Ryan Young has a great training video.
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Boom Boom
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+1 on the RYP videos.
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KTM 300 exc w/ plate
Husky WR 250
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Super Sherpa
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bwc352
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| twstm wrote: | | bwc352 wrote: | | twstm wrote: |
Thanks for the welcome, but I wouldn't call myself a Trials rider yet! I have found in the hour or so I have had on the bike that I have a lot to learn. I managed to get over a few good sized logs but I am sure there are a lot of techniques I need to learn. I hope to get out on a ride with someone who competes, maybe this old dog can learn some new tricks! I am seriously considering trying some entry level competition next year... |
I believe you should definitely enter some events next year. I think you'll have a blast. In my opinion, you should just dive right in. The sooner, the better. I probably would suggest starting out in the Beginner class if in D6 and in the C or B class in MAVT. If it turns out that those classes are too easy for you, you can always move up at the next event. But if you immediately jump into a class that's too hard for you, you probably will have a real crappy time which could kill your enthusiasm.
I hope to see you at some events next year. Right now, it looks like the first event will be an MAVT event at Candytown in mid-April, which is a few miles south of Hershey, and not too bad of a trip for you. I hope you circle the date and plan on going.
Brian |
Right now I think I am going to go for it. Maybe an old dog can learn new tricks? I need to get up to speed on the acronyms also...I can't remember what MAVT stands for???
I have been watching some of the training video clips on the Trials Training Centers web page, they are definitely a help. Is there any instructional DVD you would recommend?
Thanks,
Paul |
Hi Paul,
MAVT stands for Mid-Atlantic Vintage Trials, which can be found at the following site: www.mavt.org
Their focus is on the preservation of vintage trials bikes and competition, but they have active modern classes and at times, have more modern bikes than vintage. Becoming a member is cheap (I think $10). If you're not a member, you don't show up in the results. Their events are located in Maryland, Virginia, W.Virginia, Ohio, Delaware, and Pennsylvania. They'll likely be your first potential event as they usually start their season before D6 (district 6), with Candytown (a few miles south of Hershey) being one of their opening events. They have four lines: A, AB, B, and C. With all organizations, there's a lot of variation in difficulty from event to event. If you're a beginner, you'll likely want to pick between the B and C class. Given that you're on a modern bike, you might possibly target the B class.
D6 info can be found at: www.d6trials.com
If you ride D6, you probably want to download a registration form from their site and send it to the Chairman, Terry Anselmo, before the season starts. You might contemplate starting in the beginner class. You can always move up. Moving down isn't always greeted with great enthusiasm.
You might also consider entering a D4 event. You probably will not want to do their beginner class as it might possibly be too easy. D4 is also less prone to put in things that could be potentially dangerous, so I'd think you'd likely be fine in their Novice class. They occasionally hold an event in Ulster, PA which is relatively close. Plus, they have a ton of events in the Elmira/Corning area.
Also, Cayuta NY is holding a national this year. It's rare for a national to be that close by. I believe you'd really enjoy spectating that event. They held one last year with hillclimbs that were hard for me to even fathom. Unfortunately, they were also hard enough to result in one of our top three riders being life-flighted out, and from what I've read, apparently retiring from the sport because of it.
As for video: 1) Ryan Young's 1st video (not his advanced one, at least yet!), 2) the links that Bill provided to YouTube, and 3) Indoor championship DVDs where the obstacles and techniques are clear, and where you can slow mo the heck of them. I think I might have learned the most from #3.
The best way to get better is, in my opinion, clearly through competition. Everyone (me included) tends to overestimate how well they are riding when they go out to practice with their buddies. In competition, you have a little card recording every mistake you make all day long, which is very sobering and very instructive. You don't get to lie to yourself when you're doing it for real.
I hope you go for it. I think you'll have a blast.
Brian |
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